Got it to load successfully (on Vista had to Run As Administrator) and it imported some market reports. Great! But I see here that there is a Windows app for it where various things can be done. Er… how? The IGB part works great but how do I access the rest of it?
Hi.
I don’t undertand how the “market” tab works.
I got the transactions, orders… by the API, but there’s still nothing in this “market” tab.
What did I do wrong?
@Jimky
Unfortunately, there are no ways to import market via API.
Use file or cache import to fill up EVE Mentat’s market browser with data: view market data in game, than click “Cache import” button in market.
Hey, thnx for this lovely app Still figuring it out
I see you planned for importing data from eve-central of course eve-metrics would have been better but it is closing down, so I suggest you keep your eyes on : http://eve-marketdata.com/ it is becoming the new eve-metrics.com. Of course it is just a suggestion.
Again i luv your app but i gotz some questions.
I keep getting this error when i update everything :
Updating player transactions (API)…
Error 101: wallet Exhasued retry after ….blahblah
Whatis that all about?
And 1 last thing, I do not understand selfcost? How can i see the profit i make, can I put in somewhere a field to tell it for how much I am going to sell the stuff I am buying? Or does it get it from the transactions?
Oh and i had another suggestion. People might find it annoying to get and export the market stuff so why not use the autom. market browser that comes with eve-metrics or eve-marketdata ? You just put it on in your IGB and it exports them. Just a tip (and perhaps you can incorrpurate that into your app
About the problem: try to turn off other applications which donloads your transactions via API. Because transactions, journal and orders can be obtained once per hour.
Программа отличная. Я просмотрел очень много торговых инструментов, ментат – лучший. Не бросай программу, она нужна многим.
Мои пожелания:
- возможность скрывать основные вкладки
- программа должна запоминать отрегулированную ширину столбцов в таблицах
- возможность отрегулировать высоту окон во вкладке “рынок” – регионы, систему, станции
- фильтр должен быть всегда включен с последними настройками (без раскрытия панели настроек)
- возможность создавать папки с товарами на вкладке “рынок” (как в квикбаре в самой игре)
- возможность менять местами столбцы во всех вкладках (с сохранением настроек)
yo, i got few questions:
what is market browser ghud for and how do u use it? (guide pls)
whats ‘self cost’?.. i have no clue whats that supposed to mean..
what is it ghud for? how to use? can it tell me my daily profits? (guide pls)
can i figure out my daily profits with this tool at all?
i mean.. profit is all i wanna know.. and i cant find it..
@pekmez
Hello,
To use the market browser you should browse market for different goods in the game and then import to EVE Mentat using cache import (see button on toolbar at the Market Browser tab). Then you will be able to see the market there, compare prices in different locations, find profitable orders.
Self cost – it’s cost of goods for you. Used to calculate profit rate of your trade orders. Now can be set manually (or manually with selected buy transactions). In the future automatic self cost calculation will be implemented.
Currently there is no daily profit indicator, just overall profit for all or selected trade orders.
Of guides and videos… I’m going to create wiki help and more video guides soon.
Hi i tried to start trading with eve mentat and i followed the video. But when i want to import the cache i got this message
[error] Updating market orders (cache)…
[info] Importing from client at ‘C:\Spiele\Eve’…
[warning] Error calling cache import tool. Code: -1073741819
[error] Cache import failed
and i got the message from windows that the evemarketordersfromcahe.exe doesn’t work.
Thanks for helping and excuse the double post i unwittingly pressed the tab-botton.
Actually if my buy orders are closed or i delete them they will not shown as this. In an old version they were still there until I import a new image of my orders… does it happen because of the static database issue? Sry for my english
Thart : @devfrag
Strange… Could you send me your database for investigation?
Well, I’ve tried to reproduce this issue for the last couple of days with no luck. It it comes up again I’ll backup the database and send it to you right away. I’ll end this comment with a question. How long to is the order history available?
Those orders red with cross means I was outbidded by my competitors, however my competitors range are only the station and I am the whole region. So they are not my competitors.
Id like to get those red notifications only when someone that is buying out of the same range as me (region) outbidded me.
Is this possible? Or can you make it possible somehow? ^^
Hes not my competitor because hes buying ONLY in that single station, while Im buying from the entire region. Hes my competitor in that single station.
Id like to get the red notifications IF someone buying that item with the same range as me (region) would outbidded me.
Example: You place a buy order with the range of REGION of 100isks, and I place a buy order with the range of REGION of 90isks, then I would get a red notification.
But If you place a buy order with the range of station of 100isks, and I place a buy order with the range of REGION of 90 isks, then I would NOT get a red notification.
You are buying from the station, while I am buying from the entire region. Prices will be different. They can never be considered my direct competitors.
If I am buying with the range of REGION, then my competitors are the ones buying with the range of REGION as well, and not the ones buying from one single station.
Hes not my competitor because hes buying ONLY in that single station, while Im buying from the entire region. Hes my competitor in that single station.
He doesn’t cover all your area of interest but he is competitor anyway.
You are not right in general, but I see the usefull option for some players in your words: in the future partially overbid orders will be marked with a special color (orange for instance). I’ve just added this task into my database.
I’m missing a report like window like in WalletAware. This report shows is grouping transactions for items filtered by a time range. This is useful for reaction pos owners with different reactions.
I addition I propose a modification of the transactionlist. It should be possible to make a group of items to get only the transactions for this group. Especially for POS owners (inventions, reaction) this would be awesome.
@Ada
I have an idea to implement extended (and saveable) filters for transactions and journal, and I think it’s possible to extend the idea with your request.
I made a little Python software to get a fast report for the data in the 2 database files. The static DB is attached. The SQL strings are (not exact)
Example filter 1 to get just the numbers for the important wares:
SELECT
transactions.typeID,
typeName,
SUM(price*quantity)*(CASE WHEN transactionType=”buy” THEN -1 ELSE 1) AS “cost”
FROM transactions
JOIN invTypes ON transactions.typeID=invTypes.typeID
WHERE ignored=0 AND transactions.typeID IN (44,3434,2344)
GROUP BY transactions.typeID
Example filter 2 to get the profit for the important wares:
SELECT
SUM(price*quantity*(CASE WHEN transactionType=”buy” THEN -1 ELSE 1)) AS “profit”
FROM transactions
WHERE ignored=0 AND transactions.typeID IN (44,3434,2344)
I’m having issues with the importer, it correctly imports ~80% of all orders I cache through the IGB scanner, however there is always at least 1 order that it refuses to scan.
I’ve tried switching the scan time to 10 seconds nad that didn’t help.
I’ve seen comments dating back to 2009 that eve-central support is planned, but so far doesn’t exist. I’m not a programmer but regularly use the Eve-Central API system to retrieve data for my spreadsheets and it’s extremely easy/useful. If I might ask, what’s the barrier?
Just out of curiosity, I don’t mean to be pushy or rude.
Got it to load successfully (on Vista had to Run As Administrator) and it imported some market reports. Great! But I see here that there is a Windows app for it where various things can be done. Er… how? The IGB part works great but how do I access the rest of it?
@Krystel Amkalai
Please, explain which features do you mean?
Hi.
I don’t undertand how the “market” tab works.
I got the transactions, orders… by the API, but there’s still nothing in this “market” tab.
What did I do wrong?
@Jimky
Unfortunately, there are no ways to import market via API.
Use file or cache import to fill up EVE Mentat’s market browser with data: view market data in game, than click “Cache import” button in market.
@Thart
Thanks, I’ll try tonight
Hey,
Is it possible to port my manual changes of the “cost price” (under the tab characters orders) from an older version to a newer version?
Thanks
@Sam
Never mind, found it!
Would it be possible to import eve-central dump csv files?
I’ve planned to import data from EVE-Central in future.
Hey, thnx for this lovely app
Still figuring it out 
I see you planned for importing data from eve-central of course eve-metrics would have been better but it is closing down, so I suggest you keep your eyes on : http://eve-marketdata.com/ it is becoming the new eve-metrics.com. Of course it is just a suggestion.
Again i luv your app but i gotz some questions.
I keep getting this error when i update everything :
Updating player transactions (API)…
Error 101: wallet Exhasued retry after ….blahblah
Whatis that all about?
And 1 last thing, I do not understand selfcost? How can i see the profit i make, can I put in somewhere a field to tell it for how much I am going to sell the stuff I am buying? Or does it get it from the transactions?
Thnx:) Luv yer app:)
Oh and i had another suggestion. People might find it annoying to get and export the market stuff so why not use the autom. market browser that comes with eve-metrics or eve-marketdata ? You just put it on in your IGB and it exports them. Just a tip (and perhaps you can incorrpurate that into your app
Actually it doesnt export just views them so you can then use the chache import function and its all good!
@Freezo
Thank you for suggestions.
About the problem: try to turn off other applications which donloads your transactions via API. Because transactions, journal and orders can be obtained once per hour.
I want this to show me when I am outbid on buy orders, but I don’t see how…
@Asmo
Try new alpha release.
How often / or when does the delta collumn update in the sell orders overview of character orders?
@SirHarryPierce
Every time you update order information via API or via file.
Delta values are calculated between old and new values.
Ok, would it be possible to have that collumn show a default timeinterval, like last 24/48/72 hrs?… thx.
@SirHarryPierce
I’ve added proper task for 1.2.x development.
Thanks for suggestion.
grt! thx.
При попытке импортировать рыночные логи выдается ошибка There are no market files to import! На предыдущем стабильном релизе все было в порядке.
@Bud
Изменения в клиенте EVE Online сломали файловый импорт. Ведутся работы.
Программа отличная. Я просмотрел очень много торговых инструментов, ментат – лучший. Не бросай программу, она нужна многим.
Мои пожелания:
- возможность скрывать основные вкладки
- программа должна запоминать отрегулированную ширину столбцов в таблицах
- возможность отрегулировать высоту окон во вкладке “рынок” – регионы, систему, станции
- фильтр должен быть всегда включен с последними настройками (без раскрытия панели настроек)
- возможность создавать папки с товарами на вкладке “рынок” (как в квикбаре в самой игре)
- возможность менять местами столбцы во всех вкладках (с сохранением настроек)
@Bud
Спасибо, большинство из вышеприведенного уже запланировано. Но пару идей записал.
yo, i got few questions:
what is market browser ghud for and how do u use it? (guide pls)
whats ‘self cost’?.. i have no clue whats that supposed to mean..
what is it ghud for? how to use? can it tell me my daily profits? (guide pls)
can i figure out my daily profits with this tool at all?
i mean.. profit is all i wanna know.. and i cant find it..
the ‘overview’ video is no big help..
@pekmez
Hello,
To use the market browser you should browse market for different goods in the game and then import to EVE Mentat using cache import (see button on toolbar at the Market Browser tab). Then you will be able to see the market there, compare prices in different locations, find profitable orders.
Self cost – it’s cost of goods for you. Used to calculate profit rate of your trade orders. Now can be set manually (or manually with selected buy transactions). In the future automatic self cost calculation will be implemented.
Currently there is no daily profit indicator, just overall profit for all or selected trade orders.
Of guides and videos… I’m going to create wiki help and more video guides soon.
Hey Thart,
My anti-virus (Norton) is picking up a keylogger. Is there a purpose for this function? How might I address this and still keep my anti-virus running?
Thanks,
G
@Granix
EVE Mentat has no keyloggers and other malware code inside. It can be Norton’s false positive.
Did you download EVE Mentat from the official web site?
Which module is regonized as keylogger?
Could you test it on VirusTotal service?
Hi i tried to start trading with eve mentat and i followed the video. But when i want to import the cache i got this message
[error] Updating market orders (cache)…
[info] Importing from client at ‘C:\Spiele\Eve’…
[warning] Error calling cache import tool. Code: -1073741819
[error] Cache import failed
and i got the message from windows that the evemarketordersfromcahe.exe doesn’t work.
Thanks for helping and excuse the double post i unwittingly pressed the tab-botton.
@JobZt
Did you try this?
first of all: great app! love the look & feel! but is there any way to import the wallet data like from the beginning of time?
@derps
No, maximally up to one month. It’s API restriction.
Actually if my buy orders are closed or i delete them they will not shown as this. In an old version they were still there until I import a new image of my orders… does it happen because of the static database issue? Sry for my english
@Sunny
Please write me e-mail with additional information including item types you trade and screenshots. It can be a bug and I’m going to catch it.
My corporate order history is showing my personal sales with 1.1.24. Any ideas?
@devfrag
Strange… Could you send me your database for investigation?
Well, I’ve tried to reproduce this issue for the last couple of days with no luck. It it comes up again I’ll backup the database and send it to you right away. I’ll end this comment with a question. How long to is the order history available?
It’d be nice for a csv export of the journal / transactions that have been selected
@Emma
Yes, planned
Hi, how can you set the range for REGION when it tells shows your competitors in one item?
Id like to set my competitors those who are buying out of the entire region, and NOT those who buy out of the station.
@inuke
Hi,
Try this test build. It contains correct price status calculation for buy orders based on real distance and order’s range.
How can I set the RANGE of my competitors??
@inuke
There is no range option for buy orders, because EVE Mentat automatically takes into account your and your rival’s buy order range.
See this: http://i.imgur.com/nGkOB.png
Those orders red with cross means I was outbidded by my competitors, however my competitors range are only the station and I am the whole region. So they are not my competitors.
Id like to get those red notifications only when someone that is buying out of the same range as me (region) outbidded me.
Is this possible? Or can you make it possible somehow? ^^
Thanks so much in advance.
@inuke
If your order’s range is region then any buy order at any station with any range is your competitor.
Competition equation is: your_range + other’s_range >= distance_between_stations (“true” means that your orders is overbid by other’s order).
This doesn’t make sense.
@Thart
Hes not my competitor because hes buying ONLY in that single station, while Im buying from the entire region. Hes my competitor in that single station.
Id like to get the red notifications IF someone buying that item with the same range as me (region) would outbidded me.
Example: You place a buy order with the range of REGION of 100isks, and I place a buy order with the range of REGION of 90isks, then I would get a red notification.
But If you place a buy order with the range of station of 100isks, and I place a buy order with the range of REGION of 90 isks, then I would NOT get a red notification.
You are buying from the station, while I am buying from the entire region. Prices will be different. They can never be considered my direct competitors.
If I am buying with the range of REGION, then my competitors are the ones buying with the range of REGION as well, and not the ones buying from one single station.
See here: http://i.imgur.com/JQBPE.png
Also Thart, an out of topic question ;p
Is it possible to that IGB tool to import the entire market? Or lets say items in the quickbar?
Instead of only our market orders.
@inuke
All market – of couse no. But I plan extend IGB scanner with different options in the future.
He doesn’t cover all your area of interest but he is competitor anyway.
You are not right in general, but I see the usefull option for some players in your words: in the future partially overbid orders will be marked with a special color (orange for instance). I’ve just added this task into my database.
AWEseom XD That will work perfectly, as long as we can tell which orders we need to update
Thanks thart
Why are you doing this? Why are you sharing and maintaining such a software for free?
@me
Hobby, experience, fun.
I’m missing a report like window like in WalletAware. This report shows is grouping transactions for items filtered by a time range. This is useful for reaction pos owners with different reactions.
I addition I propose a modification of the transactionlist. It should be possible to make a group of items to get only the transactions for this group. Especially for POS owners (inventions, reaction) this would be awesome.
@Ada
I have an idea to implement extended (and saveable) filters for transactions and journal, and I think it’s possible to extend the idea with your request.
I made a little Python software to get a fast report for the data in the 2 database files. The static DB is attached. The SQL strings are (not exact)
Example filter 1 to get just the numbers for the important wares:
SELECT
transactions.typeID,
typeName,
SUM(price*quantity)*(CASE WHEN transactionType=”buy” THEN -1 ELSE 1) AS “cost”
FROM transactions
JOIN invTypes ON transactions.typeID=invTypes.typeID
WHERE ignored=0 AND transactions.typeID IN (44,3434,2344)
GROUP BY transactions.typeID
Example filter 2 to get the profit for the important wares:
SELECT
SUM(price*quantity*(CASE WHEN transactionType=”buy” THEN -1 ELSE 1)) AS “profit”
FROM transactions
WHERE ignored=0 AND transactions.typeID IN (44,3434,2344)
Hi
how do i import data from evecentral?
@Nokin Niam
It’s impossible at the moment. But feature already planned.
@Thart
Ok when does it come? it will de the most used tool for me and for others too!
I’m having issues with the importer, it correctly imports ~80% of all orders I cache through the IGB scanner, however there is always at least 1 order that it refuses to scan.
I’ve tried switching the scan time to 10 seconds nad that didn’t help.
@Kulanah
Market cache import FAQ
@Thart
I’ve seen comments dating back to 2009 that eve-central support is planned, but so far doesn’t exist. I’m not a programmer but regularly use the Eve-Central API system to retrieve data for my spreadsheets and it’s extremely easy/useful. If I might ask, what’s the barrier?
Just out of curiosity, I don’t mean to be pushy or rude.
@Killadicter
The main barrier – a lot of different tasks.
Nevertheless, Importom from web services (EVE-Cental, EVEMarketeer, EVEMarketdata) is already implemented in EVE Mentat 1.2.x prototype.
Join EVE Mentat Google group if you wish to try the prototype.